In this article, we are going to be debunking once and for all the questions that Mike Gendron asks Catholics. He asked these questions as if Catholics cannot answer them, and in this article, we are going to answer them once and for all. He asked thirteen of these questions during our debate in the last five minutes, and he expected me to answer them all. As you can see, this is going to be a pretty long article series, so to ask them within five minutes, not very honest! But they are good questions and we wanted to answer them. We are going to show that not only does he not know the Bible well, but he does not understand context. Every one of these questions he asks us, can be answered by looking at the context of the verse. See, many anti-Catholics just look and memorize 20 to 30 verses and they just repeat them over and over and whatever somebody asks, they just throw a verse to answer. If they hear something else, they repeat another verse. They just take and pull from one of these verses and read them into their own preconceived theology. But if you read the context and see exactly what the passage is talking about, it does not mean what they say and they are reading their own theology into the Bible. Here are some examples:

 

Mike Gendron’s statement 1: Salvation is secured by the promises and power of Almighty God. How can one who has been born again of incorruptible seed die again? 1Peter 1:23.

The first question Mike asked me was, how can someone who is born of incorruptible seed die again? Any, he quoted 1Peter 1:23. And the answer is, look at the context, Mike. The context tells us how we can die again. So, let us read what Peter says in context: “… Through him, you are believers in God having purified your souls by your obedience to the truth for a sincere, brotherly love. Love one another, earnestly from a pure heart since you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God.” So how did we purify our souls? Through obedience to the truth. How do we become born again? Through the living and abiding word of God. By abiding in him. I mean, how do we become corrupt in the first place? How did we lose life in the first place? Through sin. The Bible says in Romans 6:23 that the wage of sin is death. So, sin separates us from God, but Christ took care of that. He reconciled us back to God and now we are in him. However, if we leave him or if we fall away or if we stop following him or become disobedient, then we lose that life. And this is exactly what Christ himself teaches. Listen to what it says in John 15: “I am the vine, and you are the branches. He who abides in Me and I in him bears much fruit. Without Me, you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered, and they gather them and throw them into the fire. If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love just as I have kept my fathers’ commandments and I abide in his love. You are my friends if you do what I command you.” Notice it says,” if you do not abide in me, you will be cast out and thrown into the fire.” Notice it does not say: “Oh, you were never part of me, so you are going to be cast into the fire.” No. These are people who already abide in him. These are saved Christians. So, he says: “if you do not abide in him, if you do not follow the commandments, if you do not do what he commands, you are going to be cast out.” So, what keeps us in Christ? His living word, his grace and obedience to that living word and grace. And what casts us out? Disobedience, not following Him, bearing bad fruit, going back to the old ways of living. So how do we go from incorruptible to corruptible? By being separate from the vine. That is what Jesus says here: “I am the vine, and you are the branches”. So as long as we are connected to the vine, we are fine. We are in Christ. We cannot be harmed. Even if we sin a little, Christ will forgive us, but it is when we break away from that, we fall away, we go back into our old ways of living perhaps, or apostasy or other things like that, we can fall away and fall out of abiding in him, and that is when we start to become corruptible again.

I recommend reading John 14 and John 15. They are so clear that obedience, faithfulness, following commandments and bearing good fruit are all conditions for being saved and staying saved, and if you do not, you are going to be cast out and thrown into the fire.

 

Mike Gendron’s statement 2: How can a new creation return to what has passed away? 2 Corinthians 5:17.

The next question Mike asks is:” How can a new creation return to what has passed away?”

The answer is, again, sin and following away from Christ. And the answer is: “Read the context, Mike!” Because it is in the context. Let us see what the whole passage, not just one sentence, has to say: “From now on, therefore, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we once regarded Christ according to the flesh, we regard him no longer thus. Therefore, if anyone who is in Christ, he is a new creation. The oldest passed away and the new has come.”

 Now notice this is, this fits perfectly with what we just said in John 14 and John 15. If we are in Christ, if we are living for Him, if we are in relationship with Him and we are being obedient to Him and following his commands, we are in Him. That is fine. We are on our way to heaven. However, if we fall away from that, if we are cut off, if we return to living in the flesh, that is what this says: “We once were regarded Christ according to the flesh.” So, if we return to the flesh, we no longer have Christ. And as many Protestant scholars warn and understand, top Protestant scholars’ commentaries, theological dictionaries, say that Paul would not warn us so often that we can return to the flesh and fall away if we could not.

Some people say: “Once you are in Christ, you can never fall away.” Well, Paul would not be warning us that we can fall away. He would not be telling us to stay in Christ, or if we just automatically do that, it does not make any sense. The fact that we can is why he warns us. It is Kind of like the show on Netflix Cobra Kai. I do not know if you have seen Cobra Kai, but there is a man named Terry Silver, and in his early days, he was a bad man, psychotic, rude, mean, and he left that lifestyle. He found a woman. He got married, made lots of money, lives in a huge house, sips wine, lives on the beach and lives a very peaceful lifestyle. But sensei kreese, another karate master came up to him and wanted to use him in his plan to get back at Daniel’s son, and he said: “No Kreese. I left that life behind me. I am sorry! I appreciate your offer, but I left that behind me a long time ago. It is not even part of me anymore.” But slowly by slowly Kreese started bugging him and influencing him, and he made one little choice in the wrong direction. And that one little choice went to two and three and suddenly this old side of him started taking over him. And he even admits halfway through the series, that there is a part of me that has come out that I did not even know was there anymore. It was so dormant in there; he did not even know it was there. That is how sin works too. The devil can get us to do one little thing to walk away from Christ, and if we do not get back with Christ quick, it could be two little things, three little things, and all of a sudden, we are starting to. Fall away from Christ. I know many people, Catholic and Protestant, who have fallen away from Christ through sin, through going back to living in the flesh, to not trusting Christ anymore and feeling like they are being judged and all of these other things, and that is how we fall away.

And again, this is exactly what the Bible teaches. This is confirmed in holy scripture in Galatians chapter five:17-22. It talks about the war between the flesh and the spirit. And this is not talking to not saved people. It is talking to saved people who already have Christ. And Paul is talking to them and saying,” live in the spirit”. If you live in the spirit, you are great, but if you go and live in the flesh, you are not. Listen to what it says:” I say to you, walk by the spirit and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh for the desires of the flesh are against the spirit and the desires of the spirit are against the flesh for these are opposed to each other to keep you from doing the things you want to do: Holy things. But if you are led by the spirit, you are not under the law now. The works of the flesh are evidence, sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions. Divisions envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like that. I warned you, as I have warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the Kingdom of heaven. But the fruit of spirit is love, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, and faithfulness.”

 And likewise, in one Corinthians six:9-12, revelation 21, it says that idolaters, fornicators, homosexuals, and other people, he gives us long list. Drunkards will not enter the kingdom of heaven. So, this is what it means to live in the flesh, and if we claim to follow Christ, but we start going back to live in the flesh.

We are going to be cut off. We lose that new life. We forfeit that new life. We throw it away in some sense because Paul says:” if you have this new life, then walk in it.” Walk in the spirit and people say:” oh! but if you are a true Christian, you will walk in the spirit”. Yes, in general, but we can be deceived, we can walk away.

To say differently means that we do not have free will. And of course we have free will, and of course we can be deceived. And of course, the devil is going to temp us. But if we stay faithful to Christ, then we are good. But if we do not, we return to what we were before and we will need to be redeemed and come back to Christ.

Like those two Hillsong pastors, both of them fell away from Christ. One became an atheist; one became a fornicator. Both were cut off from Christ. They did not have his life in them. They were not living for Christ anymore. However, one was convicted of a sin. When it became public and he returned to Christ, the other has not, he stayed away from Christ.

So, one has come back, and he was reconciled again. One has not been, and he has cut off from Christ forever. If he does not repent, it does not matter if you were saved beforehand. If you go back to the way you were living, the Bible says” you will be cut off.” And it says:” those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.”

The Bible cannot be clearer, Mike. It cannot be clearer that if you do these things, you will lose your salvation. Now, of course, Mike believes in a Calvinist theology that once you accept Christ, you are predestined, you are automatically going to heaven. There is nothing you can do. And there are other people who say that too.

You could kill murder and become an atheist or a Catholic and you will still go to heaven once you are saved. Yes, really people believe this. Protestants believe this. Some of them, you know, it is not the majority view, of course, but let us see what else he has to say.

 

Mike Gendron’s statement 3: How can one who has been perfected forever be found imperfect? Hebrews 10:14.

In this one he says quoting Hebrews 10:14, that how can one who has been perfected forever be found imperfect? Easy, Mike, by reading the context of scripture as we have been doing, and by interpreting the passage properly and not with your preconceived Calvinistic views. First of all, Hebrews 10:14 is contrasting the New Testament high priest, Jesus Christ, with the Old Testament high priesthood, they had to continually offer sacrifices because the Bible makes it clear that they were imperfect, so they had to do it again and again and again. But what Christ did once and for all on the cross is perfect and he offered it to the Father for us. He is not saying:” we are perfect forever right now” because the verb in the same sentence, it says:” we are being sanctified.”

How can we be perfect if we are still being sanctified? We are not. That means we are still imperfect, and we still sin and we still have work to do, and Christ has work to do in us. But it is talking about Christ’s one perfect sacrifice. Don once and for all, so at anyone at any time, from anywhere who comes to him can be forgiven and find forgiveness and find new life in him.

That is what the passage is saying. But again, Calvinist theology reads their own theology into these Bibles. They see every verse in the Bible under their own theology, rather than seeing the verses for what they actually say. And again, I can prove this because this same exact chapter, Hebrews chapter 10, if he just read, 10 verses later, it literally says:” you can lose your salvation”. It literally says:” you can lose the sacrifice that Jesus gave” you by going back in sinning. Everything I have literally been saying this whole time is again confirmed. Listen to what it says:” For those who sin willfully after having received to the knowledge of truth, there are no longer remains a sacrifice for sin, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment and fiery indignation, which will devour the adversaries.” Now if you go on and read the rest of the passage up until verse 36, it talks about those who had received and were counted as part of the blood of the covenant, and they were sanctified.

These people were sanctified, and they fell away, which means these are believers who have fallen away and lost the sacrifice that Christ gave them. That is why Revelation three five says that” your name can be blotted out of the Book of life”. How? He says, can you, if you are perfected forever, go back to being imperfect by going to choose to live in the flesh, to not remain in Christ, to be cut off, to not be connected to the vine, to sin willfully, and to go back to your old life, as we have been saying, as Terry Silver did as that Hillsong pastor did, and many, many others as well.

Again, listen to what two Peter 2:20-22 says. It says: “For if after they have escaped, they meaning Christians have escaped the defilements of this world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and they are again entangled in them and overcome. The last state has become worse than the first.”

It would have been better for them to have not known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back to the holy commandment delivered to them. What the proverb says has happened to them is true. The dog returns to its own vomit, and the so after washing herself returns to wallow in the Mire”.

So, these people have been washed and sanctified. That is cleansing, renewing justification. That is the language of the Bible here, and it says that” the dog returns to its vomit.” In other words, you are going back to live in the sinful lifestyle that you chose, You. Some people get entangled in sin and they run to Christ, and they pray and they struggle against this sin, but some have it overtake them and they fall away.

And those are the people that lose this life of Christ within them. And as Hebrews says:” that sacrifice that Christ did for them no longer remains”. Like those are scary words. And I have seen many debates on once saved, always saved eternal security. Protestant versus Protestant, where they argue with each other, and the Protestants were arguing for Eternal security. Many times, admit during the debate like, but what if this is not true? That is a scary thing. I mean, I might be lost forever. Yes, you might be, but that is why you need to stay in Christ. They are doing this out of fear. It is a fear-based religion in many ways, for many people. I am not saying everybody, but for many people it is.

But we do not need to fear, if we have Christ, we just need to stay faithful and trust him.

 

Mike Gendron’s statement 4: How can God’s irrevocable gift of eternal life be taken back. Romans 11: 29.

 Next, Mike says, how can God’s irrevocable gift of eternal life be taken back? And he quotes 11, Romans 1129, which literally has nothing to do with Christians.

That is part of the problem is he does not read the context of the passage. He just finds something that seems to apply to his worldview, and he takes it. I used to do that when I first started apologetics. I would latch onto anything that proved my point of view, whether it was true or not, and it is dishonest if he read the actual context.

It is talking about Jews, not Christians. The whole context is referring to Jewish. People and how they used to be part of the covenant, but they have been cut off and because they have been cut off, we have been grafted in. But even though God had mercy on us because of their disobedience at one point in time, God is going to have mercy on them as well so they can be saved.

Why? Because his call is irrevocable. What call? What gift? The gift he gave to the Jews. He is not forgetting it. It is going to last forever and there is going to be a time of mercy for them. That is what this passage is saying. But he is reading once and for all theology, just believe in you are saved once and for all.

That is what the Bible says. It is irrevocable gift. It is not talking about Christians, Mike. It is so sad! Seriously, please say a prayer for Mike. He is so confused. And this is what people do. They construct their theologies into the Bible rather than reading the Bible and getting theology out of it. It is called I said, Jesus.

Also, one thing we have to remember is that God does not ever take away his gifts. God is faithful. God is true. God is faithful to the end. It is we who are not faithful. It is we who choose not to remain in the vine. God is going to keep us forever. If we choose to stay in him, and that is a choice because we have free will.

I know people like Mike and Calvinist do not believe in free will, but the rest of Christianity does. Muslims do not. Calvinists do not. But the fact is we do have free will and if we choose to break away from the vine, then we can lose that. And surprise! Surprise! Romans 11. If he just reads the context, he will see exactly that, that we can lose this through disobedience.

I mean, literally, you just have to read the context, Mike, of these passages, he reads one verse, Romans 1129 and ignores the rest. If he read just a few verses earlier, he would see that you can actually lose your salvation in no ambiguous terms. Let us see what it says in Romans 11:17-22. It says:” you will say branches were broken off so that I may be grafted in. That is, they were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast only through faith, so do not become proud. But stand in awe.”

Why should not we become proud? Because that can lead to disbelief. He goes on says:” for if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. Note then the kindness and the severity of God severity to those who have fallen, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you too will be cut off.”

 Wow! That is not only scary. It is so clear. The Bible cannot be clearer that you can be cut off, that he will not spare you, and that you must remain in Him again connected to the vine. Otherwise, John 15, what does it say? You will be cast out and thrown into the fire.

All of these passages match up together. They all support each other. We not only have the proximate context, but we also have the remote context of all of these different verses matching up with one or another and saying the exact same thing to show that is true. Not to mention the even more remote context of the earliest Christians and the unanimous consent down through history of Christians believing this.

 

Mike Gendron’s statement 5: How can the good shepherd who gave his life for his sheep fail to protect and keep them. How can the perpetual intercession of Jesus be denied?

Now again, believers of eternal security read eternal security into every passage of the Bible. Jesus literally is not only not speaking of eternal security here, it is not even on his mind. It is not even on Paul’s mind or anyone’s mind of any of these passages. It is not even taught here. What is taught is that Jesus is contrasting evil teachers, evil false guides, people he put in charge who were corrupt, and He is saying “You” Pharisees are bad. I put you in charge and yet you are not good, The good shepherds, you are bad shepherds. You do not care for the sheep. You are not leading them and guiding them, and you are not giving them the truth or salvation.” But I am the good shepherd.” I actually, unlike you, care for my sheep. I love them and I want them to be saved and I am going to give them eternal life.

So, this does not have to do with eternal security. It is saying:” it is a contrast between the Pharisees who are not leading them to life and Christ who is leading them to life”. That is the context of John chapter 10. But where is eternal security found? It is not, where does it say that” we cannot fall away?”

Where does it say, “we cannot wander?” It does not.

 Oh! and in fact, John Chapter 10 says: “we can wander”. Have you ever heard of the parable of the 99 sheep and Luke? I mean,” how many of you who have one sheep. Just wander away from the 99 would not go after that sheep. And if he finds it, he puts it up on his shoulder with great joy and brings it back.”

Notice he uses the word “if”. “If he finds it” meaning that he might not find the wandering sheep, they could wander and stray away forever. Of course, the good Shepherd is going to go after his sheep and look for them and call for them. But if they do not come back and he cannot find them, then they are lost.

Like in all of these other passages that we have been talking about. In this next question he asks, he says, how can the perpetual intercession of Jesus be denied? Hebrews 7: 25? Easy. It cannot. It does not. It is not going to be denied, but that does not mean that it proves eternal security. It means you have to look at the context again.

 I am being humorous here, but literally every one of these has a context and every context answers the question. Again, this does not have to do with eternal security. Calvinists are reading these passages into their own theology, which they already made. What the passage is saying is the same as John chapter 10.

It is contrasting like similar passages. We have already talked about the Old Testament priesthood versus the New Testament priesthood, and specifically “Jesus” as the high priest In the Old Testament, they had to offer sacrifice again and again and again. It was Imperfect and just never satisfied. But Jesus died once and for all and satisfied the price for sin and per perfectly reconciled us back to God.

And now unlike the Old Testament priest, He intercedes on our behalf perpetually. In other words, He does not have to go back and offer sacrifice again and again and again and again. He does it once and continually. Praise and intercedes for our us on our behalf, not just like once a year in the Holy of Holies.

So this is contrasting the priesthoods to show the difference, not showing eternal security. Mike thinks that” we are saved”. What the verses are saying and what the Bible is saying is that anytime. Anywhere. Anyone who comes to Christ because of his perfect sacrifice, because of what he did for us on a cross, can be saved, can find forgiveness, can find healing and reconciliation with God at any time.

It does not say: “We are just perpetually in that state” because we have read many verses already that have said “You are not”, and you can fall away and you can be lost, you can be cast out, and so on, and so on and so on. So, all of this fits with Catholic theology that he intercedes for us so that anytime we have sinned, we can find forgiveness.

Not just once a year when the priest goes into the holy of holy and makes atonement for all the sins of Israel. No, we can find it anytime because he perpetually intercedes for us before the father. So, if we go to him, He will mediate on our behalf before the Father. That is what the Bible is saying. Not that “once you believe in him, you are automatically going to heaven.” That is what it does not say.